Virginia Ballot Questions

From Chuck Angier, forwarded by Patricia Evans:

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Please pass this along, get the word out, and put someone in each precinct informing the voter of this critical amendment!

From Chuck Angier

Sandy Level, VA

As I travel around the state, I am amazed at how many informed and engaged friends are STILL UNAWARE that there are 2 Virginia State Constitutional Amendments on the ballot. I wish to address Question 1, a “Right-to-Work” (RTW) amendment.

Question 1 on the Virginia ballot will be:

"Question: Should Article I of the Constitution of Virginia be amended to prohibit any agreement or combination between an employer and a labor union or labor organization whereby (i) nonmembers of the union or organization are denied the right to work for the employer, (ii) membership to the union or organization is made a condition of employment or continuation of employment by such employer, or (iii) the union or organization acquires an employment monopoly in any such enterprise?"

Click èHERE for the full text of the legislation.

Background

Thanks to laws already on the books, Virginia has, for the most part, ALWAYS been an RTW state, but those laws can always be tampered with or retracted by any fickle General Assembly. By elevating the law to the status of a Constitutional amendment, it will be protected from such fickleness.

My take

Setting aside for a moment my opinion of unions and how they’ve decimated otherwise prosperous communities (oops, my bad), this issue is quite simply an issue of liberty. ALL have a right to negotiate gainful employment without being impeded by the state or any organization. ALL have a right to pursue new and better opportunities without hindrance. On the flip side, employers also have a right to negotiate for productive labor without fear of being impeded by the state or any organization.

To me, the simple interpretation is:

1. No employee shall be forced to join or pay dues to an organization as a condition of employment or continued employment

2. No employer shall be forced to hire union members

RTW states have consistently been more prosperous than non-RTW states.

I am offended that MANY, especially on the national level are vehemently opposed to Right-to-Work because it is so “destructive” as shown by one particularly abrasive video from Mrs. Clinton:

“And I will fight back against so-called ‘Right to Work’. Right to Work is wrong for workers and wrong for America”….. “The choice for families has never been clearer”

If you need more convincing, check out the 45 goals of Communism as read into the Congressional Record on January 10^th 1963, particularly #’s 32 through 37 or so

Better yet, Read “The Naked Communist”

Best – Listen to “The Naked Communist”…the audio version is updated as of early 2016

I WILL ALWAYS FAVOR LEGISLATION THAT FAVORS PERSONAL LIBERTY!

Unfortunately, as I understand it, the Federal government has terms for Federal contractors that often compromises the rights of employees and employers to come to their own terms, ALL THE MORE REASON THAT VIRGINIA NEEDS TO VOTE “YES” ON QUESTION 1!

Opposition?

In an October 15^th Editorial, the Richmond Times-Dispatch claims that it has always supported RTW BUT not this time. The RTD (and organized labor) opinion provides a weak argument that the RTW amendment only addresses PART of the current legislation and excludes SS 40.1-61 which forbids employers from demanding abstention from unions. This very exclusion is sufficient to protect the employee from demands as set forth in 40.1-61 because SS 40.1-61 is still on the books! Duh!

Here’s a taste of what the opposition is up to and below is an excerpt from a position statement on the matter from the Madison County Democrats (highlights added)

On June 13, 2016, the Madison County Democratic Committee voted unanimously to approve the Virginia AFL-CIO‘s resolution in opposition of Virginia Republicans’ union busting “Right to Work” Amendment (2016) which are nothing more than blatant efforts to enshrine an existing law that is designed to infringe upon the rights of workers and stifle our collective voices. If passed, this amendment would continue to force hard working Virginians to accept jobs that don’t pay a living wage.

Wow, now THERE’S a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance! Gimme a break!

There is so little knowledge of this crucial question on the November ballot. Please pass this along, get the word out, and put someone in each precinct informing the voter of this critical amendment!

2. Ballot Question

Question: Shall the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the General Assembly to provide an option to the localities to exempt from taxation the real property of the surviving spouse of any law-enforcement officer, firefighter, search and rescue personnel, or emergency medical services personnel who was killed in the line of duty, where the surviving spouse occupies the real property as his or her principal place of residence and has not remarried?

I will use “heroes” to describe all of the “killed in the line of duty” mentioned in the proposed amendment above.

Virginia is a Dillon rule state thus much of what localities can and can’t do is dictated by the state.

The proposed amendment grants to the localities the option of offering real property tax exemption for the survivors of fallen “heroes”

I favor any legislation that grants liberty to the localities, so I will probably vote “YES”, BUT….

If it prevails and Pittsylvania tries to implement an exemption, I would oppose it pretty strongly for the following reasons:

1) Can’t we come up with something better than this?

2) Don’t we already have systems in place to compensate survivors of fallen heroes?

3) Wouldn’t “survivor” and “line of duty” (among other terms) be subject to interpretation and or challenged by those that might feel cheated?

a. As another example, what about a hero that is permanently and expensively disabled. Might the burden on the survivor be greater than if the hero had passed?

b. What about survivors of armed services members killed in the line of duty? (maybe there’s something already on the books)

4) Won’t there be constant challenges by selfish to get the same exemption

5) Won’t there be other special interest groups vying for the same treatment?

So…As I write this, I am talking myself into a “no” vote so now here’s where I stand

An unenthused “yes” for the amendment (but it could go downhill)

A passionate “no” for Pittsylvania if they try it.

You deserve to know that I know, my position is contrary to most of those of you that I hang out with.

You’re welcome to share any or all of this in any way you wish.

Chuck Angier

Sandy Level, VA

cangier@fairpoint.net
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Are Muslim Americans Plotting Violent Treason?

Legal notice: I, Priscilla King, on behalf of myself and the contributors known as Grandma Bonnie Peters, Gena Greene, Adayahi, Yona, and Lisiwayu, disclaim any knowledge of the accuracy of the post that follows. Patricia Evans shared this article by John Guandolo, apparently for reposting not linking. Serious charges are made here; if Muslim Americans can refute these accusations, they are invited to do so. This is a blog not a newspaper and, by publishing John Guandolo's claims, I am asking not telling how accurate they are.

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Islamic Movement in U.S. Preparing for Battle

John Guandolo, Understanding the Threat, September 13, 2016

For UTT followers who are accustomed to brief articles, this is a longer article because it needs to be. This is an important topic and needs a little more attention

Please read this carefully because the implications are significant. JG

As Understanding the Threat has continually reported, there exists in the United States a significant jihadi movement led primarily by the Muslim Brotherhood whose organizations include the most prominent and influential Islamic groups in America.

The Islamic Movement in the U.S. continues their daily work of preparing for the coming battle at all levels of the society. From a military standpoint, the leaders of the American Muslim community are coalescing their forces and preparing strategically, operationally, and logistically for war.

Strategic Overlay
Going back to the early 1980’s, the jihadis set up an elaborate network of jihadi centers known in the U.S. as the Al Kifah Refugee Centers to recruit jihadis for the war against the Soviets in Afghanistan. Some of these over three dozen offices were operated by only a couple jihadis with a phone or fax machine, and some had a more sizable presence in the community. Nevertheless, they created nodes across the United States for jihadis in many American cities, and became centers for possible Al Qaeda recruitment in the future.
For the last few decades the Pakistani terrorist organization known as Jamaat al Fuqra has been establishing jihadi training camps in the United States primarily among black Muslims, many of whom were recruited in prison. Known in the U.S. as “Muslims of America” or “MOA,” approximately two dozen of the three dozen known camps appear to be operational today.
In the early 1990’s the Chief Investigator for the state of Colorado, with support from the Governor and Attorney General, launched a multi-jurisdictional raid of an MOA compound near Buena Vista (CO) and discovered weapons, explosives, lists of people to be assassinated, evidence that military/national guard bases had been under surveillance, and the like.
In one of the gems discovered in the 2004 FBI raid of the Annandale, Virginia home of a senior Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas leader, a recording of a senior Muslim Brotherhood leader speaking to a group of Muslim Brothers in Missouri revealed the MB has numerous training camps inside America and conducted regular firearms training.
To be clear, they are not planning on conducting violent actions in the immediate future, but are planning for “Zero Hour” – their term for when the violent jihad will begin when the time is right. They may wait until an outside influence from a foreign power or a major event initiates conflict, and then the Islamic Movement can begin the jihad and act independently or as an ally for a hostile foreign power such as Iran or China.
In the MB’s 5-Phase “World Underground Movement Plan” – discovered at the 2004 FBI raid in Annandale, Virginia – the Brotherhood states (Phase 2) they must “Establish a government (secret) within the government.” The purpose of this is to have jihadis on the inside of our government who will serve as the leadership for the Islamic Movement when they seize power in the United States. Until then, their role is to (1) gather intelligence and (2) conduct influence operations at all levels of the society, especially within the decision-making process.
As has previously been discussed, this is much more a counterintelligence and espionage issue than it is a “terrorism” matter. The enemy is preparing the battlefield now for the eventual battle to come.

The U.S. Network
The evidence in the largest terrorism financing and Hamas trial ever successfully prosecuted in American history (US v Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, Dallas 2008) reveals the most prominent Islamic organizations in the U.S. are a part of a massive jihadi network whose stated objective is to wage “Civilization Jihad” to destroy our system of government and establish an Islamic State (caliphate) under sharia here. The evidence also reveals the Muslim Brotherhood Islamic Centers/Mosques are the places at which jihadi train for battle and from which the jihad will be launched.
All of the mosques our military entered during the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and mosques that European authorities have raided in the last two years have had weapons in them. The purpose of a mosque is what Mohammad used a mosque for, and the launch point for jihad is one of those purposes.
There are over 2400 Islamic Centers/Mosques in America, most of which are a part of the MB’s jihadi network.
In the United States the “nucleus” for the Islamic Movement is the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) whose subsidiary Islamic Societies number approximately 170. The Muslim Students Associations (MSA) serve as a recruiting arm for jihadis, and there are over 700 chapters on nearly every major college campus in America.
Reports from around the country from civilian and law enforcement sources reveal: Mosques and Islamic organizations are being built in strategic locations – near key infrastructure facilities, military bases, or some other key position in the community; taxi cab drivers at the largest airports in the U.S. are Muslim; and there is a noticeable increase in sharia-compliant Muslim TSA officers, baggage handlers and airline/airport employees at U.S. airports.
Additionally: Muslims are purchasing hotels, quick marts, and 7-11 type stores with gas stations, and a majority of major hotels in cities across the U.S. have a manager or assistant manager who is a Muslim, which is statistically impossible unless this activity is intentional.
Quick marts and gas stations provide their Movement with a logistics train that will be needed in a battle. Having people in leadership positions at major hotels in major cities, where law enforcement and intelligence groups and others hold conferences, serve as excellent intelligence gathering nodes.
Jihadis have penetrated U.S. federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies giving them access to sensitive intelligence systems, while simultaneously they have shut down real threat-based training inside these same agencies under the guise factual/truth-based training is “offensive to Muslims.”
Jihadis have also penetrated senior levels of the government (eg Suhail Khan working for two successive Secretaries of Transportation with access to classified critical infrastructure details), and have recruited senior U.S. government officials to promote and protect their interests which are hostile to the U.S. (most recent example – Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson promoting and defending leading MB organization ISNA and speaking at their annual convention expressly to open the door to more Cabinet officials to do the same).
Key jihadi organizations, like Hamas (doing business as the Council on American Islamic Relations/CAIR) work on Capitol Hill and inside government agencies to keep truthful discussions about the Islamic threat from ever happening, while plotting to work with Al Qaeda (as evidenced by UTT’s Chris Gaubatz discovery of a CAIR document dated 3/08/04 at their headquarters in Washington, D.C. stating, “Attempt to understand Islamic movements in the area, and start supporting Islamic groups including Mr. bin Laden and his associates”).

Now, the U.S. government is bringing tens of thousands of sharia adherent Muslims into our nation. From the Islamic perspective, these people are Muhajaroun – those who make the hijra into the non-Muslim lands in preparation for the “Final Stage,” which is armed conflict with the host country. This is all a part of their strategy, and is consistent with core Islamic doctrine.
Finally, we are currently observing the Marxist/Socialist Movement in the U.S. working directly with the Islamic Movement at the ground and strategic levels. Both have publicly declared their support for one another, they are both receiving funding from hard-left Marxists/socialists (eg George Soros) and foreign powers, and both are openly pushing for confrontation with and the overthrow of the U.S. government.
The Islamic Movement in the United States is deeply embedded in the U.S. decision-making process, has thousands of organizations and allies, possesses a logistics train of fuel and supplies, conducts weapons training programs, has access to U.S. intelligence systems, is well funded (primarily by Iran, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc), has strategic plans for North America (An Explanatory Memorandum) and has a plan to implement the strategy (Implementation Manual) which they are following.
The U.S. response is to say “Islam is a religion of peace” and work with the very Muslim leaders who are driving this hostile network.
Victory is not possible with this recipe.
Each year there are between 70 and 120 new Islamic non-profits being created in America, most of which appear to be working directly in line with the Muslim Brotherhood’s plan to wage civilization jihad until “Zero Hour” when the war goes hot.
Until then, they continue to prep the battlefield because they are really at war with us, and they are following sharia – core Islamic doctrine – as their blueprint for what they are doing.


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"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people. They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." - Thomas Jefferson 

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Nationalization of Local Police?

From Patricia Evans. (I've been reposting these things at Freedomworks, but Freedomworks has shut down its whole social/blogging section, probably due to lack of traffic...)

One comment: The price of liberty is responsibility...see that bit that Rose Wilder Lane undoubtedly inserted into Little Town on the Prairie. "I will have to make myself be good...This is what it means to be free." If we don't act on our Judeo-Christian principles, there's nothing to stop us becoming a Muslim or Marxist or fascist nation, and we'd deserve it. I go on bothering to write, or eat or breathe, because I believe we as a nation can stop ourselves becoming a Muslim or Marxist or fascist nation. But it requires some voluntary ethical choices. I don't know how people in Baltimore have grown up relating to each other, or why...but if they want the right to regulate their own police, they'd jollywell better demonstrate that they've stopped prioritizing emergency calls with "Is the victim Black or White?" Because that sort of behavior invariably generates either a more or less consensual takeover by some outside "authority," or more of the kind of idiocy recently observed in poor little Korryn Gaines.



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"The much-feared nationalization of local police departments is already being initiated by the Obama administration's Justice Department. And somehow nobody noticed. It's time to support local police, not render them impotent via federal restrictions against maintaining law and order. No less than the very existence of local government is at stake." - Robert Romano, senior editor of Americans for Limited Government.

From Sue Long

Our hearts are heavy and our prayers are for the safety of our law enforcement officers; they are under attack.

“Police Brutality” was the communist rallying cry in the civil rioting in the 1970’s.

Now, police are being targeted again. Protesters, including “Black Lives Matter” devotees, wave the communist hammer and cycle flag, give the communist clenched fist salute and chant for killing the police.

Law enforcement under local control, keeping America free, is unique in history. But the power-hungry want federal control of law enforcement; it is needed to establish martial law and establish a dictatorship. A separate national police force is one means of doing this but not the only one.

Another way is to leave the local police forces intact but regulate and control them at the national level. Such as:

• Imposing federal controls after making local departments dependent on federal grants.
• Suing police departments on the false charge of Police Brutality or Police Prejudice. Local government agrees, then federal policy changes are imposed. This has happened in 30 police jurisdictions.
• Merging the smaller more rural law enforcement departments with the larger more urban departments, forming regional departments.

Additionally, we now have the United Nations’ plan calling on local police forces in America to comply with what it calls “international standards,” bringing together more than 100 national police chiefs at its first-ever UN “Chiefs of Police Summit.”

We must keep law enforcement under local control to keep America free.

UN Backs Secret Obama Takeover of Police

United Nations calls for federalization of U.S. law enforcement to be 'beefed up,' cover all of America

by Robert Romano | Updated 04 Aug 2016 http://www.lifezette.com/poliz ette/un-backs-secret-obama-tak eover-of-police/
Robert Romano is the senior editor of Americans for Limited Government.

“The Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice has provided oversight and recommendations for improvement of police services in a number of cities with consent decrees. This is one of the most effective ways to reduce discrimination in law enforcement and it needs to be beefed up and increased to cover as many of the 18,000-plus local law enforcement jurisdictions.”

That was United Nations Rapporteur Maina Kai on July 27, a representative of the U.N. Human Rights Council, who on the tail-end of touring the U.S., endorsed a little-known and yet highly controversial practice by the Justice Department to effect a federal takeover of local police and corrections departments.

The Obama administration has been pursuing the federal takeover of local police right under Congress' nose — and Republicans in Congress were apparently unaware it was happening.

The consent decrees are already being implemented in Newark, New Jersey; Miami, Florida; Los Angeles, California; Ferguson, Missouri; Chicago, Illinois; and other municipalities.
Here's how it works: the Civil Rights Division at the Department of Justice files a lawsuit in federal court against a city, county, or state, alleging constitutional and civil rights violations by the police or at a corrections facility. It is done under 42 U.S.C. § 14141, a section of the 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, granting the attorney general the power to prosecute law enforcement misconduct. The municipality then simply agrees to the judicial finding — without contest — and the result is a wide-reaching federal court order that imposes onerous regulations on local police.

The federal court orders are designed to undo Rudy Giuliani-style policing tactics that were effective at reducing crime in big cities in the 1990s and 2000s.

In short, the much-feared nationalization of local police departments is already being initiated by the Obama administration's Justice Department. And somehow nobody noticed.
Federal requirements include how searches are conducted, what constitutes legitimate use of force, the mandatory use of on-body cameras by the police, and so forth. The agreements impose years-long compliance review regimes, implementation deadlines, and regular reviews by federal bureaucrats. This makes local police directly answerable to the Civil Rights Division at the DOJ.
One example includes a 77-page March 30 consent decree between the department and the City of Newark, New Jersey, that resulted from a 2011 investigation, a 2014 series of findings by the Civil Rights Division, and then finally a federal lawsuit alleging police misconduct in the U.S. District Court in the District of New Jersey.
The original complaint alleged that the Newark Police Department (NPD) "has engaged in a pattern or practice of constitutional violations in its stop and arrest practices, responses to individuals' exercise of their rights under the First Amendment, uses of force, and theft by officers. The investigation also revealed that the pattern or practice of constitutional violations stems in part from deficiencies in NPD's systems that are designed to prevent and detect misconduct, including its systems for reviewing force and investigating complaints regarding officer conduct."
The city of Newark, via the consent decree, agreed to the allegations and to implement a "comprehensive and agency-wide policies and procedures that are consistent with and incorporate all substantive requirements of this agreement," including rules on stops, searches, use of force, etc. The city has two years to implement, with the full agreement lasting five years. Meaning — even if the political parties change power in the city of Newark, the new mayor and city council would still be required to implement the court order.

U.S. Cities with Active DOJ Consent Decrees

City	State	Police Force
Chicago	IL	11944
Los Angeles	CA	10000
Miami	FL	1259
Ferguson	MO	54

Source: Americans for Limited Government

These consent decrees are in essence regulations. That, is, without the niceties of administrative procedures requirements, public comments, or even any congressional oversight.
Remarkably, congressional offices contacted by this author were generally unaware of the regulation of local policing via DOJ consent decrees with cities — even though the agreements have been implemented for years. Not a single hearing or word of protest has occurred on this topic.
The lack of oversight is pathetic enough — but to make matters even worse, this could actually be the first step in a new wide-ranging body of federal rules on local police.
The Department of Housing and Urban Development regulation "Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing" (AFFH) actually originated as a consent decree in 2009 against Westchester County, New York, requiring affordable housing units to be built in the county. Afterward, Republican Robert Astorino was elected county executive and yet was still required to implement the court order.
Westchester became the basis for AFFH, where every city and county in the country that accepts any part of $3 billion of annual community development block grants to 1,200 recipient cities and counties now has to comply with HUD's dictates on zoning along racial and income guidelines.

DOJ may very well end up doing the same thing with the local police — that is, if Congress does not wise up to what's really happening and defund implementation of 42 U.S.C. § 14141. This is dangerous. What is most chilling is how far along the Obama Justice Department is in this process. The breadth of regulation here shatters any notion of local governance or federalism. The Obama administration has been pursuing the federal takeover of local police right under Congress' nose — and Republicans in Congress were apparently unaware it was happening.
No doubt the practice would continue under a Hillary Clinton administration too. Do you want a Clinton Justice Department running your local police force? That is how important the election in November suddenly becomes — with law and order already hanging in the balance and police being targeted by domestic terrorists in the slayings in Dallas and Baton Rouge.
As Americans for Limited Government President Rick Manning noted in a statement calling attention to the U.N.'s interest in the DOJ program and urging Congress to act, "The fact that the U.N. Human Rights Council — which includes some of the worst abusers of human rights in the world that hate the U.S. — is cheering for this DOJ national takeover of the police should tell members everything they need to know. It's time to support local police, not render them impotent via federal restrictions against maintaining law and order. No less than the very existence of local government is at stake."

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"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people. They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

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Malheur: the Rest of the Story

I don't usually do this, nor do I like to...but because this is shaping up to resemble the Waco disaster, where accurate reportage was the only thing that might have saved about twenty little children's lives, I'll do it. Here, without checking or editing, is an infodump from Patricia Evans. Please check the links and facts below for yourselves--I'll try to, as best I can, but I can't guarantee I'll be online this week due to possible snow.

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Bundy Ranch Statement, watch the video here:
https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch/videos/938588846217924/

"Calling all freedom loving people to come to Harney County Oregon, come to the Malhuer Wildlife Refuge."

We all need to know the FULL STORY on What’s Going on In Oregon – Militia Take Over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge In Protest to Hammond Family Persecution…

The Last Refuge, January 3, 2016 by Sundance:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/

Many people will awaken today to the news of approximately 100 to 150 armed militia taking control of a closed Wildlife Park Headquarters, and not know the full back-story – so here it is:

The short summary is: in an effort to draw attention to a ridiculous arrest of a father and son pair of Oregon Ranchers (“Dwight Lincoln Hammond, Jr., 73, and his son, Steven Dwight Hammond, 46,) who are scheduled to begin five year prison sentences (turning themselves in tomorrow January 4th 2016), three brothers from the Cliven Bundy family and approximately 100/150 (and growing) heavily armed militia (former U.S. service members) have taken control of Malheur Wildlife Refuge Headquarters in the wildlife reserve. They are prepared to stay there indefinitely.
Here’s the long version you need to know: including history, details, links video(s) and explanations:

Hammond Family

HISTORY: (aa) The Harney Basin (were the Hammond ranch is established) was settled in the 1870’s. The valley was settled by multiple ranchers and was known to have run over 300,000 head of cattle. These ranchers developed a state of the art irrigated system to water the meadows, and it soon became a favorite stopping place for migrating birds on their annual trek north.
(ab) In 1908 President Theodor Roosevelt, in a political scheme, create an “Indian reservation” around the Malheur, Mud & Harney Lakes and declared it “as a preserve and breeding ground for native birds”. Later this “Indian reservation” (without Indians) became the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.
(a) In 1964 the Hammonds purchased their ranch in the Harney Basin. The purchase included approximately 6000 acres of private property, 4 grazing rights on public land, a small ranch house and 3 water rights. The ranch is around 53 miles South of Burns, Oregon.
(a1) By the 1970’s nearly all the ranches adjacent to the Blitzen Valley were purchased by the US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) and added to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The refuge covers over 187,000 acres and stretches over 45 miles long and 37 miles wide. The expansion of the refuge grew and surrounds to the Hammond’s ranch. Being approached many times by the FWS, the Hammonds refused to sell. Other ranchers also choose not to sell.
(a2) During the 1970’s the Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), in conjunction with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), took a different approach to get the ranchers to sell. Ranchers were told that, “grazing was detrimental to wildlife and must be reduced”. 32 out of 53 permits were revoked and many ranchers were forced to leave. Grazing fees were raised significantly for those who were allowed to remain. Refuge personnel took over the irrigation system claiming it as their own.
(a3) By 1980 a conflict was well on its way over water allocations on the adjacent privately owned Silvies Plain. The FWS wanted to acquire the ranch lands on the Silvies Plain to add to their already vast holdings. Refuge personnel intentional diverted the water to bypassing the vast meadowlands, directing the water into the rising Malheur Lakes. Within a few short years the surface area of the lakes doubled. Thirty-one ranches on the Silvies plains were flooded. Homes, corrals, barns and graze-land were washed a way and destroyed. The ranchers that once fought to keep the FWS from taking their land, now broke and destroyed, begged the FWS to acquire their useless ranches. In 1989 the waters began to recede and now the once thriving privately owned Silvies pains are a proud part of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge claimed by the FWS.
(a4) By the 1990’s the Hammonds were one of the very few ranchers that still owned private property adjacent to the refuge. Susie Hammond in an effort to make sense of what was going on began compiling fact about the refuge. In a hidden public record she found a study that was done by the FWS in 1975. The study showed that the “no use” policies of the FWS on the refuge were causing the wildlife to leave the refuge and move to private property. The study showed that the private property adjacent to the Malheur Wildlife Refuge produced 4 times more ducks and geese than the refuge did. It also showed that the migrating birds were 13 times more likely to land on private property than on the refuge. When Susie brought this to the attention of the FWS and refuge personnel, her and her family became the subjects of a long train of abuses and corruptions.
(b) In the early 1990’s the Hammonds filed on a livestock water source and obtained a deed for the water right from the State of Oregon. When the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) found out that the Hammonds obtained new water rights near the Malhuer Wildlife Refuge, they were agitated and became belligerent and vindictive towards the Hammonds. The US Fish and Wildlife Service challenged the Hammonds right to the water in an Oregon State Circuit Court. The court found that the Hammonds legally obtained rights to the water in accordance to State law and therefore the use of the water belongs to the Hammonds.*
(c) In August 1994 the BLM & FWS illegally began building a fence around the Hammonds water source. Owning the water rights and knowing that their cattle relied on that water source daily the Hammonds tried to stop the building of the fence. The BLM & FWS called the Harney County Sheriff department and had Dwight Hammond (Father) arrested and charged with “disturbing and interfering with” federal officials or federal contractors (two counts, each a felony). He spent one night in the Deschutes County Jail in Bend, and a second night behind bars in Portland before he was hauled before a federal magistrate and released without bail. A hearing on the charges was postponed and the federal judge never set another date.
(d) The FWS also began restricting access to upper pieces of the Hammond’s private property. In order to get to the upper part of the Hammond’s ranch they had to go on a road that went through the Malhuer Wildlife Refuge. The FWS began barricading the road and threatening the Hammonds if they drove through it. The Hammonds removed the barricades and gates and continued to use their right of access. The road was proven later to be owned by the County of Harney. This further enraged the BLM & FWS.
(e) Shortly after the road & water disputes, the BLM & FWS arbitrarily revoked the Hammond’s upper grazing permit without any given cause, court proceeding or court ruling. As a traditional “fence out state” Oregon requires no obligation on the part of an owner to keep his or her livestock within a fence or to maintain control over the movement of the livestock. The Hammonds intended to still use their private property for grazing. However, they were informed that a federal judge ruled, in a federal court, that the federal government did not have to observe the Oregon fence out law. “Those laws are for the people, not for them”.
(f) The Hammonds were forced to either build and maintain miles of fences or be restricted from the use of their private property. Cutting their ranch in almost half, they could not afford to fence the land, so the cattle were removed.
(g) The Hammonds experienced many years of financial hardship due to the ranch being diminished. The Hammonds had to sale their ranch and home in order to purchase another property that had enough grass to feed their cattle. This property included two grazing rights on public land. Those were also arbitrarily revoked later.
(h) The owner of the Hammond’s original ranch passed away from a heart attack and the Hammonds made a trade for the ranch back.
(i) In the early fall of 2001, Steven Hammond (Son) called the fire department, informing them that he was going to be performing a routine prescribed burn on their ranch. Later that day he started a prescribed fire on their private property. The fire went onto public land and burned 127 acres of grass. The Hammonds put the fire out themselves. There was no communication about the burn from the federal government to the Hammonds at that time. Prescribed fires are a common method that Native Americans and ranchers have used in the area to increase the health & productivity of the land for many centuries.
(j) In 2006 a massive lightning storm started multiple fires that joined together inflaming the countryside. To prevent the fire from destroying their winter range and possibly their home, Steven Hammond (Son) started a backfire on their private property. The backfire was successful in putting out the lightning fires that had covered thousands of acres within a short period of time. The backfire saved much of the range and vegetation needed to feed the cattle through the winter. Steven’s mother, Susan Hammond said: “The backfire worked perfectly, it put out the fire, saved the range and possibly our home”.
(j1) The next day federal agents went to the Harney County Sheriff’s office and filled a police report making accusation against Dwight and Steven Hammond for starting the backfire. A few days after the backfire a Range-Con from the Burns District BLM office asked Steven if he would meet him in town (Frenchglen) for coffee. Steven accepted. When leaving he was arrested by the Harney County Sheriff Dave Glerup and BLM Ranger Orr. Sheriff Glerup then ordered him to go to the ranch and bring back his father. Both Dwight and Steven were booked and on multiple Oregon State charges. The Harney County District Attorney reviewed the accusation, evidence and charges, and determined that the accusations against Dwight & Steven Hammond did not warrant prosecution and dropped all the charges.
(k) In 2011, 5 years after the police report was taken, the U.S. Attorney Office accused Dwight and Steven Hammond of completely different charges, they accused them of being “Terrorist” under the Federal Antiterrorism Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996. This act carries a minimum sentence of five years in prison and a maximum sentence of death. Dwight & Steven’s mug shots were all over the news the next week posing them as “Arsonists”. Susan Hammond (Wife & Mother) said: “I would walk down the street or go in a store, people I had known for years would take extreme measures to avoid me”.
(l) Shortly after the sentencing, Capital Press ran a story about the Hammonds. A person who identified as Greg Allum posted three comments on the article, calling the ranchers “clowns” who endangered firefighters and other people in the area while burning valuable rangeland. Greg Allum, a retired BLM heavy equipment operator, soon called Capital Press to complain that he had not made those comments and request that they be taken down from the website. Capital Press removed the comments. A search of the Internet Protocol address associated with the comments revealed it is owned by the BLM’s office in Denver, Colorado. Allum said, he is friends with the Hammonds and was alerted to the comments by neighbors who knew he wouldn’t have written them. “I feel bad for them. They lost a lot and they’re going to lose more,” Allum said of the ranchers. “They’re not terrorists. There’s this hatred in the BLM for them, and I don’t get it,” The retired BLM employee said. Jody Weil, deputy state director for communications at BLM’s Oregon office, indicated to reporters that if one of their agents falsified the comments, they would keep it private and not inform the public.
(m) In September 2006, Dwight & Susan Hammond’s home was raided. The agents informed the Hammonds that they were looking for evidence that would connect them to the fires. The Hammonds later found out that a boot print and a tire tracks were found near one of the many fires. No matching boots or tires were found in the Hammonds home or on their property. Susan Hammond (Wife) later said; ” I have never felt so violated in my life. We are ranchers not criminals”. Steven Hammond openly maintains his testimony that he started the backfire to save the winter grass from being destroyed and that the backfire ended up working so well it put out the fire entirely altogether.
(n) During the trial proceedings, Federal Court Judge Michael Hogan did not allow time for certain testimonies and evidence into the trail that would exonerate the Hammonds. Federal prosecuting attorney, Frank Papagni, was given full access for 6 days. He had ample time to use any evidence or testimony that strengthened the demonization of the Hammonds. The Hammonds attorney was only allowed 1 day. Much of the facts about the fires, land and why the Hammonds acted the way they did was not allowed into the proceedings and was not heard by the jury. For example, Judge Hogan did not allow time for the jury to hear or review certified scientific findings that the fires improved the health and productivity of the land. Or, that the Hammonds had been subject to vindictive behavior by multiple federal agencies for years.
(o) Federal attorneys, Frank Papagni, hunted down a witness that was not mentally capable to be a credible witness. Dusty Hammond (grandson and nephew) testified that Steven told him to start a fire. He was 13 at the time and 24 when he testified (11 years later). At 24 Dusty had been suffering with mental problems for many years. He had estranged his family including his mother. Judge Hogan noted that Dusty’s memories as a 13-year-old boy were not clear or credible. He allowed the prosecution to continually use Dusty’s testimony anyway. When speaking to the Hammonds about this testimony, they understood that Dusty was manipulated and expressed nothing but love for their troubled grandson.
(p) Judge Michael Hogan & Frank Papagni tampered with the jury many times throughout the proceedings, including during the selection process. Hogan & Papagni only allowed people on the jury who did not understand the customs and culture of the ranchers or how the land is used and cared for in the Diamond Valley. All of the jurors had to drive back and forth to Pendleton everyday. Some drove more than two hours each way. By day 8 they were exhausted and expressed desires to be home.
On the final day, Judge Hogan kept pushing them to make a verdict. Several times during deliberation, Judge Hogan pushed them to make a decision. Judge Hogan also would not allow the jury to hear what punishment could be imposed upon an individual that has convicted as a terrorist under the 1996 act. The jury, not understanding the customs and cultures of the area, influenced by the prosecutors for 6 straight days, very exhausted, pushed for a verdict by the judge, unaware of the ramification of convicting someone as a terrorist, made a verdict and went home.
(q) June 22, 2012, Dwight and Steven were found guilty of starting both the 2001 and the 2006 fires by the jury. However, the federal courts convicted them both as “Terrorist” under the 1996 Antiterrorism Act. Judge Hogan sentenced Dwight (Father) to 3 months in prison and Steven (son) to 12 months in federal prison. They were also stipulated to pay $400,000 to the BLM. Hogan overruling the minimum terrorist sentence, commenting that if the full five years were required it would be a violation of the 8th amendment (cruel and unusual punishment). The day of the sentencing Judge Hogan retired as a federal judge. In his honor the staff served chocolate cake in the courtroom.
(r) On January 4,, 2013, Dwight and Steven reported to prison. They fulfilled their sentences, (Dwight 3 months, Steven 12 months). Dwight was released in March 2013 and Steven, January 2014.
(s) Sometime in June 2014, Rhonda Karges, Field Manager for the BLM, and her husband Chad Karges, Refuge Manager for the Malheur Wildlife Refuge (which surrounds the Hammond ranch), along with attorney Frank Papagni exemplifying further vindictive behavior by filing an appeal with the 9th District Federal Court seeking Dwight’s and Steven’s return to federal prison for the entire 5 years.*
(t) In October 2015, the 9th District Court “resentenced” Dwight and Steven, requiring them to return to prison for several more years. Steven (46) has a wife and 3 children. Dwight (74) will leave Susan (74) to be alone after 55 years of marriage. If he survives, he will be 79 when he is released.
(u) During the court preceding the Hammonds were forced to grant the BLM first right of refusal. If the Hammonds ever sold their ranch they would have to sell it to the BLM.
(v) Dwight and Steven are ordered to report to federal prison again on January 4th, 2016 to begin their re-sentencing. Both their wives will have to manage the ranch for several years without them.
To date they have paid $200,000 to the BLM, and the remainder $200,000 must be paid before the end of this year (2015). If the Hammonds cannot pay the fines to the BLM, they will be forced to sell the ranch to the BLM or face further prosecution. (more citations here)

Hammond Family

Now you can watch this video where Ammon Bundy responds to why he and his brothers are involved. (This was recorded two days ago on Jan 1st):

VIDEO HERE: https://youtu.be/Zl5rkosu2Ig
After a protest rally supporting the Hammond family yesterday, a pre-planned group, including the Bundy Brothers, left a peaceful protest at the Harney County Sheriffs Office and went to the closed (for holiday) Malheur Wildlife Refuge, where they have seized and occupied the refuge headquarters.

Statement from Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward:

“After the peaceful rally was completed today, a group of outside militants drove to the Malheur Wildlife Refuge, where they seized and occupied the refuge headquarters. A collective effort from multiple agencies is currently working on a solution. For the time being please stay away from that area. More information will be provided as it becomes available. Please maintain a peaceful and united front and allow us to work through this situation.” (link)

Malheur National Wildlife Refuge Headquarters

(Via Oregon Live) […] The Bundy family of Nevada joined with hard-core militiamen Saturday to take over the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, vowing to occupy the remote federal outpost 50 miles southeast of Burns for years.
The occupation came shortly after an estimated 300 marchers — militia and local citizens both — paraded through Burns to protest the prosecution of two Harney County ranchers, Dwight Hammond Jr. and Steven Hammond, who are to report to prison on Monday.
Among the occupiers is Ammon Bundy, son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, and two of his brothers. Militia members at the refuge claimed they had as many as 100 supporters with them. The refuge, federal property managed by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, was closed and unoccupied for the holiday weekend.
In phone interviews from inside the occupied building Saturday night, Ammon Bundy and his brother, Ryan Bundy, said they are not looking to hurt anyone. But they would not rule out violence if police tried to remove them, they said.
“The facility has been the tool to do all the tyranny that has been placed upon the Hammonds,” Ammon Bundy said.
“We’re planning on staying here for years, absolutely,” he added. “This is not a decision we’ve made at the last minute.” (more)

Malheur National Wildlife Refuge is located roughly south of the town of Burns, Oregon. The refuge area is roughly T shaped with the southernmost base at Frenchglen, the left top at Malheur Lake and the right top at Harney Lake.

A letter dated January 1st outlines the position of the Bundy brothers, as well as the 150+ in the Militia as it relates to the Hammond family:

With great concern and love and much consideration from prayer, I come to you Harney County Sheriff of Oregon David M. Ward, rancher Steven Dwight Hammond, and rancher Dwight Lincoln Hammond, Jr.,

I, Cliven D. Bundy, have been involved for several weeks in the background striving to understand and comprehend your dilemmas in Harney County, Oregon. I understand that the grass that was burnt on each side of the fence was grazing rights that had been created through beneficial use, one side of the fence being private property and the other side of the fence being private property rights. The fires that were set were for a good purpose and had good results.

The United States Justice Department has NO jurisdiction or authority within the State of Oregon, County of Harney over this type of ranch management. These lands are not under U.S. treaties or commerce, they are not article 4 territories, and Congress does not have unlimited power. These lands have been admitted into statehood and are part of the great State of Oregon and the citizens of Harney County enjoy the fullness of the protections of the U.S. Constitution. The U.S. Constitution limits United States government.

It is my suggestion, Steven Hammond, that you go and check yourself into Harney County jail asking for protective custody. It is my suggestion, Dwight Hammond, that you go and check yourself into Harney County jail asking for protective custody. It is my suggestion, Harney County Sheriff David Ward, accept these two ranchers into your jail, notify the United States Solicitor in Washington DC that you have these two ranchers in Harney County jail, that they will remain there indefinitely under your protective custody and the protection of We the People of Harney County and We the People of the United States of America.

I suggest an Evidentiary Hearing or a Grand Jury be formed by We the People.

I feel that this action is immediately important, that it should be taken place before 10:00 am Saturday, January 2, 2016. I will hold these suggestions private until that time then I will release this letter to those having state and county jurisdiction and to the media.

Cliven D. Bundy (LINK)

Prayers for everyone !

References:
♦ Full Facts On Hammond Case HERE
♦ BEST Local Reporter Twitter Feed HERE
♦ Oregon Live Article HERE
♦ Bundy Ranch Facebook HERE
♦ Bundy Ranch Website HERE
♦ Malhuer National Wildlife Refuge – Resource HERE


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Jeff Sessions on the Omnibus Spending Bill

This is another post that belonged on Freedom Connector, but that site's "down for maintenance" again. Shared by Patricia Evans, this originated from the office of U.S. Senator Jeff Sessions, R-AL:

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From U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions, Dec 16 2015:

http://www.sessions.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/news-releases?ID=D961B85B-9553-40EF-8158-BE3B29209134

Sessions: Omnibus Would Quadruple Controversial Foreign Worker Program, Expand Admission Of Refugees, Fund President’s ‘Entire Immigration Agenda’

WASHINGTON—U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL), Chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on Immigration and the National Interest, released a statement warning that the omnibus funding bill would, among other things, fund Sanctuary Cities, the President’s refugee expansion, and quadruple a controversial foreign worker program replacing Americans – all during a time of increasing concerns about threats to U.S. security and finances:
“The more than 2,000 page year-end funding bill contains a dramatic change to federal immigration law that would increase by as much as four-fold the number of low-wage foreign workers provided to employers under the controversial H-2B visa program, beyond what is currently allowed. These foreign workers are brought in exclusively to fill blue collar non-farm jobs in hotels, restaurants, construction, truck driving, and many other occupations sought by millions of Americans.
At a time of record immigration – with a full 83% of the electorate wanting immigration frozen or reduced – the GOP-led Congress is about to deliver Obama a four-fold increase to one of the most controversial foreign worker programs. The result? Higher unemployment and lower wages for Americans.
As the Economic Policy Institute noted, ‘wages were stagnant or declining for workers in all of the top 15 H-2B occupations between 2004 and 2014,’ and ‘unemployment rates increased in all but one of the top 15 H-2B occupations between 2004 and 2014, and all 15 occupations averaged very high unemployment rates…Flat and declining wages coupled with such high unemployment rates over such a long period of time suggest a loose labor market—an over-supply of workers rather than an under-supply.’
The voters put Republicans in a majority in the 2014 midterm elections – a vote which constituted a clear decision to reject the abuse of our immigration system.
That loyalty has been repaid with betrayal.
On top of this provision, the omnibus approves – without conditions – the President’s request for increased refugee admissions, allowing him to bring in as many refugees as he wants, from anywhere he wants, and then allow them to access unlimited amounts of welfare and entitlements at taxpayer expense. This will ensure that at least 170,000 green card, refugee and asylum approvals are issued to migrants from Muslim countries over just the next 12 months.
In March, as Chairman of the Subcommittee on Immigration and the National Interest, I sent appropriators a list of several dozen provisions for inclusion in our funding bills to improve immigration enforcement and block presidential lawlessness; those provisions were rejected – yet industry’s request for more foreign workers, and the President’s request for refugee funds, were unconditionally approved.
The bill also funds sanctuary cities and illegal alien resettlement, allows the President to continue issuing visas to countries that refuse to repatriate violent criminal aliens, and funds the President’s ongoing lawless immigration actions – including his unimpeded 2012 executive amnesty for alien youth.
As feared, the effect is to fund the President’s entire immigration agenda.
There is a reason that GOP voters are in open rebellion. They have come to believe that their party’s elites are not only uninterested in defending their interests but – as with this legislation, and fast-tracking the President’s international trade pact – openly hostile to them.
This legislation represents a further disenfranchisement of the American voter.”

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This Belongs at Freedomworks, But...

This e-mail, forwarded from Carol Stopps by Patricia Evans, is the sort of thing I try to post on Freedomworks (Freedom Connector), but they "are offline for maintenance" this morning. Here's the e-mail, edited for a computer-generated spelling "correction" error and to hide an e-mail address we don't have specific permission to display:

"From Carol Stopps
Chair: Cooperative Legislative Action ( CoLA )
Virginia Tea Party Patriots Federation

Hello Everyone,

Those of you who know me, know that the Federation CoLA committee has always focused on legislation in the Virginia General Assembly. Now we are faced with the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). The final language of this trade agreement was released at 3:30 on Nov 5th. Congress has 90 days to take an up or down vote.

There will be many think tanks and individuals attempting to read and interpret the 6,ooo pages and 2 million words contained in the 30 chapters. (Only 5 chapters deal with trade) Personally I am on information overload ...

If this agreement (and the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP)) are not stopped, it won't matter what laws are passed, or who is elected in our country at the federal, state or local level. We lose our sovereignty. PERIOD! These agreements will supersede our laws and constitution through international rules and regulations. Conflict outcomes will be decided in international tribunals. (The WTO has already overridden US law) These are "living" documents which means that once they are passed, no vote in Congress is required to add new issues, regulation or participants to the agreements. (Think 2nd amendment / environmental regulations / China, Russia and the entire EU)

I hope you will join me in an all out effort to get information out there to help stop these agreements from passing. This will be a fight against the most powerful elite on earth.

These articles are full of details on what is known or suspected to date. Also contained are lists of our elected representatives, major corporations and international uber-elites who are advancing / supporting the agreements and their ultimate goals.

Secret TPP Text Released: GOP to Push Obama’s Dangerous Trade Deal

10 Reasons Why You Should Oppose TPP and TTIP

Trading Away Their Oaths Lists - Members of TPN and their mission.

Please forward to me any new articles / videos that give detailed interpretations of the actual language now that it is public...salolianigodagewi@yahoo.com

Thanks in advance,

Carol Stopps

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Links from Patricia Evans

Patricia Evans shares a batch of links of interest to U.S. readers. Her e-mail included the full text of Angelo Codevilla's more recent article, which youall should be able to open from the last link below. If unable to open it, e-mail this web site for a copy.

" Codevilla Strikes Again: “Standing Up to the Ruling Class”

“The practical problem in America has been that when the ruling class trains its united wrath against persons in any one sector — e.g., supporters of marriage as the dictionary and the law have defined it, or those who support economic probity or the right to keep and bear arms — the general public quietly stands by. No longer accustomed to speaking together, Americans hang separately. For the members of the public to transcend their isolation enough to threaten the ruling class’s hold on the commanding heights of American society would require a nationwide movement with which disparate individuals could identify, and which could encourage them to join together and speak up. Typically, such movements are associated with presidential campaigns.” (Highlighting Forum’s.)

“In our time, if a candidate were to challenge his opponents to bare-knuckle, Lincoln–Douglas sessions, his example might lead fellow citizens to reject the combination of poisonous sloganeering and of dominance, submissiveness, and corruption that now passes for politics.  Retaking control of our lives requires us to reason with one another and to decide for ourselves what is good and bad, better and worse, true and false. This is how it was when we were free." (Highlighting Forum’s.)
What citizens can do to resist the ruling class’s redefinitions of moral and cultural norms. 

Excerpts below from Richard Falknor, BlueRidge Forum on 05 Jul 2015: http://blueridgeforum.com/?p=12874

Many readers will recall Angelo Codevilla’s magisterial 2010 American Spectator article “America’s Ruling Class —And the Perils of Revolution” (click here).  Through this article and follow-on posts, Codevilla has sharpened the political understanding of many American conservatives.

Codevilla’s July 4th essay posted below is a liberating perspective not found elsewhere. A MUST READ!

“The Practical Problem”

 Codevilla urges a nationwide movement of resistance —

Codevilla follows up on his presidential campaign plan —

But whose campaign?      Read more from Richard here:  http://blueridgeforum.com/?p=12874

MUST READ:

By Angelo M. Codevilla, National Review, July 4, 2015: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420743/truth-safeguards-liberty    — Angelo M. Codevilla is professor emeritus of international relations at Boston University. He is the author of 14 books, including To Make and Keep Peace (2014) and The Ruling Class (2010).

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Events This Web Site Probably Should Report On But Won't

Two sets of Tea Party events this month have caught my attention; I regret having to miss them because they're just a little too far from home. I would get up early and join a car pool if someone was going to any of these things.

First, from Patricia Evans: no link, so I'll just paste in the whole e-mail...

"Our Founders KNEW that we would struggle to keep the republic and that only a moral, religious, educated and informed people could sustain it.  Their wisdom is painfully obvious given our current state of affairs.

Please join us for “America: A Miracle That Changed the World” , a 3-part seminar to re-discover God’s blessing of liberty through exploration of 28 Principles of Freedom our Founders deemed essential to any society that desires to remain at peace, prosperous and free.

Event:

America: A Miracle That Changed the World

Discover how 28 Principles of Liberty, in just 224 years, has done more to advance the global human condition than anything before!

When:

Saturday, March 14^th 2:00 – 6:00 – Part 1

Saturday, March 21^st 2:00 – 6:00 – Part 2

Saturday, March 28^th 2:00 – 6:00 – Part 3

Where:

Smith Mountain Lake Seventh-day Adventist Church

10802 Moneta Rd.

Moneta, VA 24121

Maps, Get directions here:

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Hosts and Contact:

Chuck & Cathy Angier

434-927-5030

434-688-2208 (cell & text)

cangier@fairpoint.net

PLEASE don’t hesitate to contact us. Email contact will probably be more productive than phone, but either is fine.

Please RSVP:

An RSVP will help us ensure that everyone has a seat. Please RSVP HERE  and include the number of people attending.  Contact information would be helpful also.  Thank you!


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"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people. They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."  - Thomas Jefferson"

If I know Seventh-Day Adventists, and I do, I can fairly well predict where the seminar's going, but it would be interesting to watch Adventists and Tea Partiers interact. (Two different groups of people, both of whom are likely to be wary of stereotypes that misrepresent them as having more in common than they do...which might or might not keep them from appreciating how much they do have in common.)

The other set of events is displayed on Publius Huldah's web site: 

https://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/2015/03/15/phs-article-v-convention-nullification-events-in-kentucky-north-carolina/

Recommended to Republicans. 

If any readers are able to make it to any of these gatherings, please report!